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scruffyParticipantOctober 29, 2019 at 4:12 pmPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantOctober 29, 2019 at 9:17 amPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantOctober 25, 2019 at 9:15 amPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantOctober 22, 2019 at 8:52 pmPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantMarch 12, 2018 at 12:56 amPost count: 2414
Well, I went with the “Dave Smith Decoys Leading Hen Turkey Decoy” from cabelas. It’s a similar pose to my old decoy and Cabelas had them for $119.99 and free shipping right now. So $50 more than the inflatable Avians and I don’t have to worry about any air leaks and might get more years of service out of it, so I bit the bullet and put some of the tax return back into the economy.
And when I think of how much I’ve spent on patterning loads, chokes, shorter barrels, calls, etc for this hobbie over the years… I guess it’s natural to splurge on an eye candy hen. 😉
scruffyscruffyParticipantMarch 11, 2018 at 3:56 pmPost count: 2414
Quote by: SR+Dave
My decoys cost me around $20.00 each back 30 years ago. Still work today. Does the HD stand for High Definition or does it really stand for High Dollar? Sure their is more detail when viewed from 5 yards. It the extra detailing going to show up at 100 yards? I doubt it will.
I do believe that a good paint job is important, especially on a sunny day. The iridescent paints do a much better job of mimicking a real turkey.
I say buy the decoy which pleases you the most. After all, you may spend more time looking at that decoy then the gobbler will. :>) :>)
Yeah, HD means both of those things LOL! 😆
And I think you hit the nail on the head. The higher definition is really only a big advantage when the tom is close to it. Getting him solely focused on it when in close to commit to coming all the way to it to place the tom for a bow shot and have less chance of him spooking from the movment.
I’m not bow hunting, but taking a friends kid out and having the tom placed and having more of it’s attention should help seal the deal.
Plus my old rubber decoy (paradise something brand) is pretty worn… stuffed with socks to hold it’s shape, up on an arrow shaft since it’s stake broke a decade ago, etc. It needs a complete repaint or replacement. And with my kids possibly going out with me also (my daughter for photography reasons), an HD decoy might be a good investment.
And like you said, I gotta look at it for hours, might as well get some eye candy LOL. 😆scruffyParticipantMarch 11, 2018 at 3:01 pmPost count: 2414
I’m actually maybe talking myself into a DSD hen LOL… It’s non collapsible self healing resin material should last for many many years, spreading the cost over many double digit seasons. the thing that worries me about the avians is air leaks or just putting it out on a cold morning and have it deflate a bit from the air inside cooling…
Either way I need to decide if I want the more popular upright/lookout hen or the leading/breading hen (not the one on the ground but the one up on the stake)… decisions…scruffyParticipantFebruary 9, 2018 at 3:01 pmPost count: 2414
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A trail camera can’t search for the location of the deer.
Or direct or steer an animal towards a hunter.
Neither can a drone. .
Im betting most that are against drones have never used one. . . I sold mine a year ago, so no dog in this fight, but in no way will it actually help “hunt” deer. You are better off with good/decent optics.
x2scruffyParticipantJanuary 25, 2018 at 1:31 amPost count: 2414
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
Freedom of speech seems to be fading away. Which is sad considering how many people have died to protect it. Seems if someone is offended, or could be offended, our right ends. We either have the freedom of speech or we don’t. If we don’t have freedom of speech, the rest of the first amendment, the rest of all the amendments, will be nullified also. Then the authority can tell you what you should believe, say, etc and you won’t be able to do anything about it.
Don’t believe me? Why do you think the “bill of rights” was created… – History.scruffyParticipantJanuary 18, 2018 at 12:49 amPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantJanuary 16, 2018 at 1:02 amPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantJanuary 9, 2018 at 3:57 amPost count: 2414
what part of the state are you calling, or what terrain are you calling?
It all works, continuous calling, sporadic calling, first light, last light, day time, night time, etc. IMHO, the more important thing is have you created a safe feeling approach for the coyote. If a coyote doesn’t feel safe exposing himself approaching a call, it more often than not will not approach. The coyote will make a note and check it out much later, maybe after dark, or circle hundreds of yards downwind, or both.
Making a coyote feel safe involves giving the coyote some cover to approach the caller. Crossing a picked bean field is pretty much zero cover. But a fence line, grassy drainage, calling crp, timber finger, etc are examples of giving coyotes safe feeling approaches with the terrain. The coyotes will most often approach on the downwind sides of these terrain features so setup able to see the downwind side. If you place the call in the edge of the cover the coyote will often circle out into the open to check for danger, whereas if you put the caller out in the open the coyote will more often stay in the cover as it approaches to view any dangers.
One of my favorite setups is a small rise in pasture or field with cover on two or three sides, and the coyote can’t see the top of the center of the rise from the cover so has to leave the cover a little, maybe just 10-15 yards, trying to see what’s on top the rise, and that exposes the coyote for a shot and the coyotes feels safe not getting more than that distance from cover.
Another way to make a coyote feel safe is to add confidence sounds. After using some distress and nothing has showed up add in some sounds the coyotes would normally hear that make them think the distress they heard is legit and safe to approach. Crows commonly are on a kill and loudly announce it’s presence, so playing crow sounds will often give the appearance to the coyote things are safe. Mix in other predator sounds like owls or hawks. Mix in distress with the crow confidence sounds and other predator sounds like owls, paint a clear picture of what is going on so the coyote don’t have any doubts what is going on down the creek or over the hill and feels safe to approach the scene. If one distress hasn’t worked then change distress, sometimes that shakes a coyote loose. Adding confidence sounds between the sound switch, like squirrel barks in the timber, will also give the coyote confidence that something the coyote doesn’t need to be afraid of is punishing the distressed animal and they should check it out when the second distress starts.
Non threatening howls also can make a coyote feel safe. A coyote wondering what is causing an animal to be in distress will have that question answered when it hears a nice sounding coyote sounding off from where it heard the distress come from. Coyotes that have a territory will have the core of that territory established normally in the middle of the section (terrain and cover can influence that obviously). There are a number of transient coyotes that don’t have territories. In the early winter after dispersal the majority of coyotes are transient, but as the winter progresses and many are killed the remaining pair up, more and more have territories but there are always transients around. If the distress and howl come from areas shallow into the section, out of the sight of the road, in the transient area, the distress and friendly howl can call in both other transient coyotes in the section as well as any territorial coyotes from deeper into the section.
If you use aggressive howls shallow in the section the transient coyotes probably won’t approach because they have nothing to protect and you’re quite possibly not in the core of the territorial coyotes in that section so the likelihood they come for a fight is lower (not zero, but lower). Aggressive howling when done closer or in the core of a coyote’s territory, especially in mating season coming up, will quite often provoke a response. The response might be they come for a fight, or it might be the coyotes go deep into their core and challenge you back and/or wait you out so see what you as an aggressive coyote do. Regardless, transient coyotes likely won’t approach your aggressive vocalizations because those transients don’t feel safe and they don’t have anything to protect.
So bottom line, call however you want as far as the duration, the volume depends on the echoing and wind speed and hills and a number of other factors. The main thing is using the land features to give an approach that makes the coyote feel safe approaching so he’s commit to approaching. Also use your sounds to make the coyote feel safe. Paint the picture of what’s going on, answer the questions the coyote has running through his head on what is playing out. And if you are using vocalizations keep in mind where you are at in the section and if you are likely calling transients or the territory owners in the types of howls you select. Each howl has its place, and each when not used in that place gets poorer results than you probably want.
One last thought I had, sporadic calling, say calling for 15-30 seconds and then waiting 3-7 minutes in silence before repeating, will call fewer coyotes than continuous calling, in my experience anyway. But the coyotes that approach a sporadic sound come in relaxed, slower, can more easily be coaxed with lip squeeks if needed to come out from behind some brush, are easier to stop with a high pitched bark or voice howl for a shot, etc. So the coyotes that come to a sporadic calling sequence are often times much easier to manipulate and therefor kill. I think more coyotes will come to continuous calling (maybe double) but most of those are coming quicker, are excited, “jacked up”, are harder if not impossible to coax, are often harder to stop, sometimes muting the caller stops them but if you need to call them closer or manipulate them past that it’s often hard or impossible. They often double back for apparently no reason and leave as quick as they come. So while I believe that continuous calling calls more coyotes, those coyotes are often much harder to kill. Not all of them are harder, and things often come together, but as a general rule in my experience sporadic called coyotes are easier to kill.
and keep a journal. I’ve called coyotes for over 20 years but only kept a journal for over 10. I can go back over the last 10 years and see what moon phases at night have given me the best day time calling results. what barometric pressures have given me the best results. what series at different times of the year have worked well for me. What farms have produced at what times of day and what wind directions. Over time you can begin to hone your hunting for what works for you.
Good luck, hunt safe, and make the coyote think it’s hunting safe as well.
scruffyscruffyParticipantJanuary 3, 2018 at 9:59 pmPost count: 2414scruffyParticipantDecember 31, 2017 at 12:30 amPost count: 2414
I would guess if they aren’t calling you back it’s more to do with vacation around the holiday than being too busy. I’ve never had or known of anyone having a problem getting ahold of the CO to get a cites tag before, so guessing it’s timing around the holiday.
If they don’t answer on Tuesday after the new years holiday I’d call the main office at the wallace building and explain what county you’re in, the CO’s you’ve left messages for, and ask them to get you in touch with someone who can get you a cites tag.scruffyParticipantDecember 23, 2017 at 3:58 pmPost count: 2414
not personally, yet, but a friend highly suggested to me taking boned out meat to Hunters Smokehouse SE of Indianola. https://www.facebook.com/HuntersSmokehouse
They only take boned out meat, and is sometimes a wait list to drop off. Unfortunately when I shot my deer I was short on time and didn’t have time to bone it out with the weather and work, otherwise I would have tried him this year. Hopefully others on here have tried them? I think they’re new to the area (came up from columbia iowa?) but that’s just what I’ve heard?