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    Quote by: stick500

    Isn’t it true that wipers are sterile?

    So any wipers caught had to be stocked by the DNR?

    Interesting that they put the effort in for hybrids that can’t reproduce, but if it helps sell more fishing licenses, then I guess that’s the point!

    Correct.

    Walleyes have little success reproducing in most iowa waters yet they stock them heavily too. Same thing for catfish in small lakes. While wipers may be sterile, they do very well in Iowa interior rivers and grow fast, which is why the DNR stocks them. As you can see in this video, they are a blast to catch, especially if you catch a hog like that one. Its not that crazy to stock a fish that wont reproduce. In fact it makes a lot of sense.

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    It was on the weekend. On Waterloo Creek. There were 8 people fishing a small section. One group of three walked through the hole I was fishing and high holed me. When I fished through, one of the guys walked behind me back to the hole I had just fished.

    Trout Fishing in Iowa isn’t my page, but I do promote trout fishing in Iowa and want more anglers. I believe we have enough water to spread out without that sort of thing happening.

    We left there and went to a private stream.

    Yeah, that is bad and extremely rude. I would’ve chewed them out for that. I don’t blame you for being upset about that. If they showed up on the same section but just walked on by, that is a different story. On the same note, Id avoid Waterloo(especially the stocked sections) on weekends if you don’t like seeing other anglers. The internet age has blown that place up and it is too close to the Highlandville area, which has also turned into a zoo of idiots. I think your expectations to have a section of waterloo to yourself was a little delusional. That is not a very rural stream as you described, considering you can get there without taking a bit of gravel(little gravel travel once you go north of Dorchester). Regardless, those 3 jerks owe you more courtesy than that. You are not out of line for being pissed off about that.

    Fair enough. Just remember, although we do have 120 or so miles of public trout water, not all of that is great fishing. Some of the water is not very productive at all. Not every angler is content catching little browns out of a put and grow cow pasture.

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    I know this gets brought up from time to time, and it’s on my mind after an incident yesterday. We have 125+ miles of publicly accessible trout water in this state, so there’s room to spread out. I understand on some of the more park like streams there will be crowds, but there’s no reason for 8 people to be on the same quarter mile stretch of a very rural stream. If someone is parked at a pull in, go up to the next one. In the case that the area is just busy, ask the angler if you can fish in the opposite direction of them. If there are 2 vehicles at every pull in, find another stream to fish. It’s that simple. We’ll all have more fun.

    Sorry for the whiny post, but it really ticked me off.

    What stream did this happen on if you don’t mind me asking? Weekend or weekday?

    Lord knows I agree with you and I would never want to stop at a place that had more than a couple cars parked at it. At the same time, if it was the weekend, that is what you get, especially at the streams that are stocked on a regular basis. You could put on a lot of miles before you find a place that doesn’t have anyone around. Many casual trout anglers are not going to put in that level of effort to avoid crowds. Regardless of how many cars are parked in an area, they are still going to get out and fish and unfortunately it is their right to do so and there’s nothing you or I can do about it. The big crowds up there are why I have stopped going as much as I used to.

    And no offense, but your FB page( I believe it is you that has the Trout Fishing in Iowa page?) and post on here only promote more crowds up there. I understand you do those posts because you love it, but all it does is attract more people. If you don’t like people around, a good step is stop promoting it all over the internet. Just sayin!

    It’s definitely a fine line about the promoting stuff, BobEr. I mean bringing awareness to Trout fishing is awesome because it comes back to us anglers if more folks buy trout stamps. The more folks buying trout stamps, the better the fishery for all of us, in theory. The crowd is a negative byproduct. Hard to find the balance between involving enough people to make it a viable resource, and involving TOO many people to where the resource is tough to share without a crowd. No right answer, IMO…

    I agree. I think his intentions are good and there is nothing wrong with promoting it. I just see it like a guy that complains about not catching big fish but never practices C&R. You cant have it both ways. It just seems like he contradicts himself by complaining about crowds when he is as vocal about promoting Iowa trout fishing as anyone in the state. ” go trout fishing!!!…….but not where i go!” I am also curious about where and when he was at when this crowd of people decided to fish the same 1/4 mile stretch he was already fishing. Maybe his expectations were just off? I also don’t think you can say anyone has bad etiquette just because they pulled up to a stretch of stream that already had a car parked there. The only etiquette they should follow is not barging in on the hole/riffle he is fishing and not posting up directly up stream from it. He has no right to claim a 1/4 mile stretch of water or tell another angler they should walk in a different direction. If he wants to avoid crowds on public water, it is his job to get away from them, not the other way around.

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    Quote by: mbchilton

    I know this gets brought up from time to time, and it’s on my mind after an incident yesterday. We have 125+ miles of publicly accessible trout water in this state, so there’s room to spread out. I understand on some of the more park like streams there will be crowds, but there’s no reason for 8 people to be on the same quarter mile stretch of a very rural stream. If someone is parked at a pull in, go up to the next one. In the case that the area is just busy, ask the angler if you can fish in the opposite direction of them. If there are 2 vehicles at every pull in, find another stream to fish. It’s that simple. We’ll all have more fun.

    Sorry for the whiny post, but it really ticked me off.

    What stream did this happen on if you don’t mind me asking? Weekend or weekday?

    Lord knows I agree with you and I would never want to stop at a place that had more than a couple cars parked at it. At the same time, if it was the weekend, that is what you get, especially at the streams that are stocked on a regular basis. You could put on a lot of miles before you find a place that doesn’t have anyone around. Many casual trout anglers are not going to put in that level of effort to avoid crowds. Regardless of how many cars are parked in an area, they are still going to get out and fish and unfortunately it is their right to do so and there’s nothing you or I can do about it. The big crowds up there are why I have stopped going as much as I used to.

    And no offense, but your FB page( I believe it is you that has the Trout Fishing in Iowa page?) and post on here only promote more crowds up there. I understand you do those posts because you love it, but all it does is attract more people. If you don’t like people around, a good step is stop promoting it all over the internet. Just sayin!

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    Well it was another good day as we limited out again. There were 4 boats on lake today talk to one boat they had there 3 man limit of 15 and some nice perch. We had our 2 man limit and the boat next to me I watched them catch 10 to 12 walleyed and a couple of 5 lb+ bass. Plus the loon was still there. Like I said MN has nothing on Iowa. I believe you ll be able to catch these fish all yr. and it will only get better. Also bull frogs as big as your fist am trying to figure out how to get a few of these for frying pan any suggestion would be appreciated.

    I was there! 20 inch crappie were abundant as well. Bluegill the size of hubcaps.

    Hope you really are on that good of fishing. I can only think of a couple shallow lakes in iowa where a day of walleye + 5 lbs bass + perch is even a possibility more less typical fishing. Would love to see pictures…

    I was there too, and the reason its hard to catch a limit of eyes, 5 lb bass and perch is because when I filleted the 50″ muskie I caught there it was full of all the above.

    lol 😆 …

    Saddie, we can help you to post pics. Are they on your computer or a phone? I can pm you my number and I’ll post them for you. (They better not be yellow… 😛 ) I missed the ‘couple of 5+ lb bass’ were those small mouth bass? What place are we even talking about!?

    Okay 5, guys and 5 limits. I’ve got 200$. Let me tag along and if you all limit out it’s yours. You’ve got no reason not to do this.

    Will, all you are willing to put up is $200? Name one good guide service that only charges $200 and gives you your $ back if you don’t get a limit? I think he has a very good reason to not take your offer. Give away his spot to a guy who will likely expose the area on social media for only $200? Not worth it! I too could put you on consistent year round walleye fishing, but id want at least another zero at the end of the price tag. I put too much time and $ on my efforts to catch eyes consistently, to just give it up all the info that easy.

    Sadie, Let the clueless remain clueless. You don’t have to prove squat to anyone. They are convinced walleye fishing sucks in Iowa and not worth the time to chase them, I say let them to continue to believe that. Leaves more room for the guys like us who have put the time in to consistently stay on the eyes year round.

    OK….BOBBER I will give the $2000 or 2g’s or 2k or two hundred with a zero behind it whatever you want to call it (makes no difference to me) show me where and how I can consistently catch my limit of “keeper” walleye in IOWA for 3 or 5 or 7 days and I WILL PAY! When and where are we going? It would be great if Sadie would go with us also then he/she too could reap the bounty.

    That’s cute trying to call my bluff. PM me if you are truly serious. And $2k only gets you one day. Cash up front! Im in eastern IA.

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    Quote by: CRIA1576

    Tips and techniques are all over the internet.

    Agreed, but I think firsthand experience and context from people that fish in Iowa and are on this site is far more credible and valuable in most cases. Most guys on here are willing to put in the effort given a little knowledge, and learning from your mistakes AND successes would be awesome. Again, that is kinda the point to this and other sites re: to help each other get better and pay it forward. If you don’t want to share or think everyone needs to “earn” it that is fine too.

    And to my point, I could write I novel for you about specific details over the last month of my fishing but more than likely it would just make your head spin and lead you on a wild goose chase. What worked one day, doesn’t necessary work the next. What I say works great, another guy may say doesn’t work for him. Have a verity of jigs, crank baits, and live bait rigs and get after it. Try different depths, speeds, locations, techniques, etc. Fish may be shallow in one lake, and deep in another. The best data you will have is from the experience on the water.
    Not sure what else you are looking for, unless you want to be spoon fed locations.

    FWIW, Iowa walleyes aren’t any different than any other state. That bite the same stuff.

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    Sadie, Let the clueless remain clueless. You don’t have to prove squat to anyone. They are convinced walleye fishing sucks in Iowa and not worth the time to chase them, I say let them to continue to believe that. Leaves more room for the guys like us who have put the time in to consistently stay on the eyes year round.

    Bob- I am one of the clueless, and similar to the OP, I am interested in learning more information about tips/techniques being employed. I don’t need the name of the lake that he is fishing at. I am looking for real-world experience and context from fellas, like yourself, that know more about walleye fishing than I do. That is the whole purpose of this and the other fishing sites. I am not interested in guys personal brag boards, rather, I am hoping that those have been consistently successful will help others get better.

    No hurt feelings at all, I just think you get a lot of experience on this board from all the members combined, and you continually see things over the years posted that seem incredibly far fetched and and folks just try to bring the information a bit closer to the truth, like when a guy says he’s been catching several 20+ lb wipers. Sometimes people don’t even realize themselves how far off they are. (like those are whitebass and they aren’t over 2lbs! Laughing Out Loud )

    Will- I agree that there are too many fish “stories” out there and sometimes a guy just has to shake his head. The examples you provide are good ones in this regard. However, I’ve also been told by “experts” that fish aren’t biting on body of water “X” just to go out and try something unconventional and fill the boat. IME, if all we did was listen to the experts we’d catch a lot fewer fish. So when Sadie says he is getting a consistent bite when others arent, I would like to hear more about his presentation so I can add to my playbook for the future.

    Sadie/Bob- You both sound like seasoned veterans when it comes to walleye fishing, and I am not asking you to prove it. Like the OP, I am not very experienced or good at walleye fishing and would like some first hand know-how on how to catch more fish. If you don’t want to share or feel threatened by sharing a specific tactic or tweak to an old stand-by, that’s fine too, but expect folks to be skeptical of what you share.

    Tips and techniques are all over the internet. There is no secret or ‘special sauce” to catching walleyes. I’m definitely not a seasoned vet or pro. I just put in my time. Best tip I can give you is, put in your time. Biggest mistake novis walleye anglers make is giving up too easy. I see it all of the time. One slow day or an hour or two with out a bite and they give up. Or they continue to beat the piss out of the same stretch of water, using the same tactics and wonder why they don’t get different results(definition of insanity). Each body of water is different, so you could use the same tactics Sadie is using and may not get any results. You could go to the same body of water that Sadie is fishing, use a completely different tactic and do just as well or even outfish him. Put in your time and learn through trial and error. Load up on a big arsenal of baits, etc and try them all. You might be surprised what you get into.

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    Well it was another good day as we limited out again. There were 4 boats on lake today talk to one boat they had there 3 man limit of 15 and some nice perch. We had our 2 man limit and the boat next to me I watched them catch 10 to 12 walleyed and a couple of 5 lb+ bass. Plus the loon was still there. Like I said MN has nothing on Iowa. I believe you ll be able to catch these fish all yr. and it will only get better. Also bull frogs as big as your fist am trying to figure out how to get a few of these for frying pan any suggestion would be appreciated.

    I was there! 20 inch crappie were abundant as well. Bluegill the size of hubcaps.

    Hope you really are on that good of fishing. I can only think of a couple shallow lakes in iowa where a day of walleye + 5 lbs bass + perch is even a possibility more less typical fishing. Would love to see pictures…

    I was there too, and the reason its hard to catch a limit of eyes, 5 lb bass and perch is because when I filleted the 50″ muskie I caught there it was full of all the above.

    lol 😆 …

    Saddie, we can help you to post pics. Are they on your computer or a phone? I can pm you my number and I’ll post them for you. (They better not be yellow… 😛 ) I missed the ‘couple of 5+ lb bass’ were those small mouth bass? What place are we even talking about!?

    Okay 5, guys and 5 limits. I’ve got 200$. Let me tag along and if you all limit out it’s yours. You’ve got no reason not to do this.

    Will, all you are willing to put up is $200? Name one good guide service that only charges $200 and gives you your $ back if you don’t get a limit? I think he has a very good reason to not take your offer. Give away his spot to a guy who will likely expose the area on social media for only $200? Not worth it! I too could put you on consistent year round walleye fishing, but id want at least another zero at the end of the price tag. I put too much time and $ on my efforts to catch eyes consistently, to just give it up all the info that easy.

    Sadie, Let the clueless remain clueless. You don’t have to prove squat to anyone. They are convinced walleye fishing sucks in Iowa and not worth the time to chase them, I say let them to continue to believe that. Leaves more room for the guys like us who have put the time in to consistently stay on the eyes year round.

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    Quote by: jereseib

    Kind of on the same topic as the boat ramp thread, what is you guys method for dealing with rude and inconsiderate fisherman? I was fishing the Saylorville spillway last night, a guy and his wife setup shop about 20 yards downstream from me. I had found a nice little current seam where I could keep my jig down for a good amount of time. This guy decides to throw upstream literally right where I had been casting.

    Ok, one time maybe its a mistake, 3-4 times in a row isnt a mistake anymore. I move about 10 yards to my right to give him some more space, casts gradually get closer to me. So at this point I decided to give him a nice stare down for a few seconds. A couple minutes later he packed up and left so I assume he caught my drift. What do you guys do in these situations? Move? Say something to them? Fire off a warning cast? Or just pummel them and teach them a lesson? (;

    Depends on the situation and location. Below spillways are locations you have to be more tolerant, IMO, as there will be a lot of people there. I usually take the high road and move most of the time. Not worth getting bent out of shape over a fishing spot. If someone blatantly comes right next to me( 20 ft. or less) and starts crossing my line I will say something. I will also say something if I am in a spot and no one else is around and someone comes right on top of me. No need to crowd me out when the whole area is vacant. Lots of times I will be a [email protected]$$ and sarcastic, especially if I know they are crowding in on me because they saw me catch a fish. ” hey, glad I could find some biting fish for ya! Can I supply you with some tackle too?” Most of the time they get the hint.

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    Quote by: TedBugle

    Open debate here, no opinion is bad or good we each have our own, share yours

    don’t be nasty

    In some European countries, it is also socially acceptable for women to not shave their legs and arm pits. Just sayin.

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    None of them. Go find a Chevy :mrgreen:

    see, the thing is, he actually wants the truck to work 😆

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    spear fishing them is awesome! definitely something id like to get into more.

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    Quote by: stick500

    Carp aren’t hideous! They provide most of my recreation! �

    To each their own. I cant deny they are one of the hardest fighters. I just find them to be the *censored*roaches of fresh water.

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    Quote by: basspro23

    I’ve been nailing the carp at Waterworks park. They are right next to the shoreline. You can hear the sucking noise when they rise out of the water. Here is a mirror carp I shot out there!

    Nice work! I don’t bow fish often but shooting one of those is on my bucket list. I think carp are hideous creatures but I do find those mirrors fascination for some reason.

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    Quote by: mr.icefishing

    Lots of good public ground all over the state.

    Apparently you didn’t read his post. He wants a low pressured area and is willing to pay.

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    Not sure whats so scary about out in the country that warrants that kind of thinking. If its a “get off my lawn” mentality, you need a gated community, not an acreage. Gravel roads are public and as such can be traveled by, well, the public.

    Because we move out here for the peace and quiet. And, there is more and more theft/trespassing every year. And, trespassers typically don’t just trespass on one property, they go through as many as they can till they get caught so it’s in everyone’s best interest to nip it in the bud. Yes gravel roads are public, but mine gets about 6 cars a day. When the road hunters start traveling back and forth we know something is up. Especially when you hear them stop, shoot, and tear off a mile or so down the road.

    In my hood we’ve all had cameras stolen, stands stolen, SD cards stolen, gut piles found 50 yards off the road, etc. If a strange vehicle parks in anyone’s field driveway, you can bet at least one person is going to stop to see if they have permission. I like it that way.

    I see both sides of this. As mentioned, it is nice having neighbors look after one another. On the other hand, I have been harassed just walking ditches pheasant hunting. Happened twice this last season. I did nothing wrong and was not trespassing but random people approached me and gave me the 20 questions and felt compelled to tell me the land bordering the ditch was private property. I nicely/sarcastically thanked them for stating the obvious.

    I am a big proponent of minding your own business but I do get why neighbors/locals/landowners get paranoid. Theft and trespassing are definitely an epidemic. We see it all of the time on this site when a member posts about a stand/camera/blind that is stolen off of private land. As usual the few bad apples ruin it for the majority that play by the rules.

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    Quote by: TeamAsgrow

    For the W!!!!! Don’t mess around in the trailer park. Old Jim Lahey will bust your ***!

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    Quote by: speng5

    I said it in my original post and I’ll agree to it again, I GET IT. Not saying everyone should turn a blind eye to everything. It takes a village, right? What DOES get incredibly old when there’s always a select few who have assumed the title of a redneck George Zimmerman and come roaring out on their John Deere Gator with the express intent of “busting a perp”.

    I sympathize with bigA’s take on this. Again, I’m not telling folks to quit looking out for their neighbors. What I would advocate is maybe not slapping on your McGruff the Crime Dog badge and, calling the REAL police/sheriff for something so benign. If you’re that worried, call the landowner, call a CO. But to bring a deputy or police officer out for a mushroom hunter who’s strayed too far is just dumb. I guess my point is, I applaud the efforts of some of those folks, but I don’t one bit understand the urgency. Go through the proper channels, don’t round up your posse and rush out to make a bust. I often wonder just how much slower and simpler farm life must be, that on any given weekend folks seem to be sitting at the kitchen table just watching the (strange) cars go by.

    2x on this. If I owned land, I would appreciate my neighbors keeping an eye out on my property, but at the same time I don’t need you harassing my friends and family that do have permission. If you see suspicious activity, take down license plates, makes and model of the vehicle and tell the land owner. Beyond that, it is none of you business or concern. I too have been unfairly harassed on land I had permission to be on by people who have no authorization to tell me to leave. It is quite annoying and can potentially create a scenario where you loose permission because the land owner doesn’t want to deal with the hassle so he just cuts of access to everyone.

    In regards to the trailer park, you have every right to tell him he can’t park there if you are the manager.

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    Quote by: JA

    I have been looking to buy something up in Allamakee County for a few years but land just does not come up often. I would rather buy and not be limited to what I can and cannot do on a lease. I think you would get more enjoyment out of owning a piece and putting a small cabin.

    Same boat here. Just don’t see much come up for sale and when it does the price tag is crazy high. If the land produces income the price is even more ridiculous. What are guys doing to get their $? or are they going in debt up to their eyeballs and hoping nothing comes up financially that could bankrupt them? I would love to buy land but going deep in debt to do it seems like a very risky and financially poor idea. One injury or illness where you cant work and have tons of medical bills and you are screwed.
    Id rather retire early than own land. Unless I can put well over 50% down or if their is a house on the property that would be my primary residence, there is no way I would buy land for the price people asking.
    I may be wrong but I think there will be a bubble that will burst at some point. I think a lot of whitetail fanatics are writing checks they cant cash and it will come back to haunt them eventually.

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    Quote by: river

    One would think it’s all about money anymore here in Americas heartland. And it is by and large. We’ve made it that way I reckon. But there is still a LOT of very good land owners out there that still believe in the American spirit and won’t charge you a damn red cent to hunt. Take the effort to meet them, ask for permission, and if granted, reward them with some game or some work.

    I understand the desire to own your own piece of dirt. Always wanted to myself. But after a lifetime of thousands of acres to hunt just by asking? Why the heck would I want the headache of ownership? The deer, pheasant, turkeys are free to roam. So am I. Like the critters, I work for survival. And don’t have to pay the taxes of ownership. Unless you’d call sharing the wealth (bounty) taxes. Which is exactly what it is.

    There is more than enough for everybody.

    Give,
    River

    If you live in rural Iowa this might still be a reality. For us city slickers, you need to drive over an hour to have a real chance of just getting permission by just knocking on a door and asking…..especially for deer hunting. My free time is worth too much to spend multiple weekends, gas $ and miles on a vehicle to potentially come up empty handed.

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