waderParticipantJanuary 19, 2017 at 10:04 pmPost count: 265kenhumpParticipantJanuary 20, 2017 at 3:15 amPost count: 12769
Quote by: wader
I have a number of folding knives but no fixed blade. I have no real use for one, but I’m looking at getting a good all around survival knife just to have. Any suggestions? I’ve looked at the buck 119,120 and 124. Probably not a true survival knife, but leaning toward the 119. Anyone have another suggestion?
I carried a 119 many moons. Great knife. Not easy to sharpen. Holds an edge well tho. 420 steel resists rust and stains.CRIA1576ParticipantJanuary 20, 2017 at 4:43 pmPost count: 589
From the bladeHQ glossary:
420 (Steel) –
has about .38% carbon. The low carbon content means that this steel is very soft, and doesn’t hold an edge well. It is low quality, low cost material. Many cheap knives tend to be made of this material because of its cost. Blades made from this material need to be sharpened frequently, and often chip. On the bright side, all 420 stainless steel is extremely rust resistant. This means that one of the best uses for this material is to make diving knives because of their constant contact with sal*censored*er. Sometimes, you will also see 420J. 420J is the lowest quality 420 steel, but is also the most rust resistant.
420HC (Steel) –
is used extensively in Buck knives. It has decent performance for comparative cost and has a higher Carbon content than other 420 steels. Contains: 0.46% Carbon; 0.3% Vanadium; 13% Chromium; 0.4% Manganese; 0.4% Silicon.
If you want to go with Buck brand, they are now selling a wide variety of knives for less than $100 in S30V which is a far superior steel to 420.
http://www.bladehq.com/cat–Knives–1623#filter:brand:Buck/filter:blade_material:CPM-S30VkenhumpParticipantJanuary 20, 2017 at 5:02 pmPost count: 12769CRIA1576ParticipantJanuary 20, 2017 at 7:30 pmPost count: 589
Ken- My Dad swore by his black handled 105 purchased back in the 80s, and he took it on many deer and antelope hunts. It is still in the family, and it does hold a good edge with the 420HC. Similar to Mora, Buck’s heat treat and hardening processes contribute to much better than average stainless steel performance.
That all being said, there are substantially better steels available these days that hold a better edge longer for less than $100. The S30V Bucks are going to outperform the entry model 420HC blades all things being equal.
As a side note, because the CPM SxxV steels are so hard, I checked with Work Sharp today to see if my power belt sharpener can hone this steel. The tech. that responded back said that the belts will indeed sharpen them, although it may take a little longer on the coarsest grit to get a good bur started.nahdoggParticipantJanuary 20, 2017 at 10:49 pmPost count: 212cudaParticipantJanuary 21, 2017 at 9:18 pmPost count: 555
Any good heavy blade knife and a big plus would be a sharpening stone and ferrous rod too. And know how to use them too. A small knife is good but makes it hard to cut fire wood. Where a big knife will do a lot more work and cutting than a small knife. And a small thin knife will break easier than a big heavy blade. The shape of the knife can make a big difference on what you can use them for. A serrated blade is really hard to chop with and really hard to filet a fish too. So think about how much you can do with just one type of knife. Because you will need to depend on it a lot and it can save your life and others too. If you can not find the right knife for you there are a few people out there that make knives. And can make just what you want. And some can cut threw a steel rod and not chip or get dull. So shop around to find that one knife that fits you just right!Brad PhillipsParticipantJanuary 21, 2017 at 10:27 pmPost count: 3187northwoodsbucksParticipantJanuary 22, 2017 at 3:05 pmPost count: 1519TrapCycloneParticipantJanuary 22, 2017 at 8:18 pmPost count: 2552
When I think of a survival knife, the first thing that comes to mind is the knife used by Sylvester Stallone when he played Rambo in the “First Blood” movies! Now that was a kick-ass knife! It basically was a bowie knife with a hollowed out handle with a compass screw cap. It even looks like there are still some replicas for sale out there!nocsiousParticipantJanuary 23, 2017 at 3:58 amPost count: 199waderParticipantJanuary 26, 2017 at 2:08 amPost count: 265Brad PhillipsParticipantFebruary 4, 2017 at 1:48 pmPost count: 3187CRIA1576ParticipantFebruary 4, 2017 at 5:53 pmPost count: 589fhgi99ParticipantFebruary 24, 2020 at 11:27 amPost count: 2
Columbia River Knife and Tool (CRKT), Cold Steel, and Benchmade all make suitable knives that would fit your functions. CRKT has some interesting serrations on a number of their knife models. I can’t remember what they’re known as. But if you are confused by choosing the knife then you should read the reviews of the knife. It will help you to choose best.Daniel-JParticipantFebruary 26, 2020 at 4:51 amPost count: 6
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