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  • Avatarsonar83
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    I assume it means the ability to place shots very accurately but what do the letters stand for?

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    sub minute of angle

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    I always took it to mean sub minute of angle too and I believe that means a one inch group at 100 yards. Im not sure if its just 3 shots or 5 though?

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    A Minute of Angle is a unit of measurement “slightly larger” than 1″ at 100 yards. So a gun that shoots “Sub-MOA”, shoots groups that are roughly 1″ or smaller at 100 yards. The number of shots should not matter, but I believe the testing for it is generally 3 shots.

    Or that’s at least how I understand it.

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    I also believe to remain sub minute you shoot under 2″ at 200 yards, under 3″ at 300, and so on.

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    The angle of an arc is expressed in number of degrees. There are 360 degrees of arc to a full circle. Each degree consists of 60 minutes of arc. The distance covered by the measure of arc is relative to the circumference (total distance around the circle) it is contained within. Knowing the radius (distance to center of circle) circumference is easily calculated by using the constant pi . The ratio (represented by pi ) of circumference is constant to diameter (radius x 2) regardless of circle size. The precise value of pi is so far unknown to man but is normally resolved to 3.1416 or 3.141 for our purposes.

    Suppose a circle with a 6 inch radius. Circumference can be calculated as:

    circumference = (radius x 2) x pi
    circumference = (6 x 2) x 3.1416
    circumference = 12 x 3.1416
    circumference = 37.6992 inches

    The distance covered by 1 degree of angle (37.6992 / 360 or, circumference divided by 360 degrees) is 0.1047 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.
    And, 1 minute of angle represents (0.1047 / 60 or, 1 degree divided by 60 minutes) 0.001745 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.

    Knowing what MOA represents allows us to calculate its value to any distance.
    Six inches (the radius of the above example) is 1/600th of 100 yards: (100 yards x 36 inches) / 6 inches = 600
    Therefore, the value of MOA at 100 yards is 1.047 inches (0.001745 x 600 = 1.047)
    At 50 yards 1/2 the 100 yard value; 70% @ 70 yards; twice @ 200 yards; 6 times @ 600 yards; and so on.
    So, the difference between thinking in inches as opposed to MOA is 0.47 inch @ 1000 yards.

    ref: riflestock.net

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    Quote by: hawkeye

    The angle of an arc is expressed in number of degrees. There are 360 degrees of arc to a full circle. Each degree consists of 60 minutes of arc. The distance covered by the measure of arc is relative to the circumference (total distance around the circle) it is contained within. Knowing the radius (distance to center of circle) circumference is easily calculated by using the constant pi . The ratio (represented by pi ) of circumference is constant to diameter (radius x 2) regardless of circle size. The precise value of pi is so far unknown to man but is normally resolved to 3.1416 or 3.141 for our purposes.

    Suppose a circle with a 6 inch radius. Circumference can be calculated as:

    circumference = (radius x 2) x pi
    circumference = (6 x 2) x 3.1416
    circumference = 12 x 3.1416
    circumference = 37.6992 inches

    The distance covered by 1 degree of angle (37.6992 / 360 or, circumference divided by 360 degrees) is 0.1047 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.
    And, 1 minute of angle represents (0.1047 / 60 or, 1 degree divided by 60 minutes) 0.001745 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.

    Knowing what MOA represents allows us to calculate its value to any distance.
    Six inches (the radius of the above example) is 1/600th of 100 yards: (100 yards x 36 inches) / 6 inches = 600
    Therefore, the value of MOA at 100 yards is 1.047 inches (0.001745 x 600 = 1.047)
    At 50 yards 1/2 the 100 yard value; 70% @ 70 yards; twice @ 200 yards; 6 times @ 600 yards; and so on.
    So, the difference between thinking in inches as opposed to MOA is 0.47 inch @ 1000 yards.

    ref: riflestock.net

    😆 😆 ya thats what I said….close any way….. :mrgreen:

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    Very nice Hawkeye. Could not have said it any better, yeah right. Thanks for the info. Now I just need to memorize it. 😯

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    I CAN SHOOT 1 HOLE GROUPS ALL DAY!! ITS THE SECOND SHOT THAT SCREWS IT UP!!!!!! 😀

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    Quote by: hawkeye

    The angle of an arc is expressed in number of degrees. There are 360 degrees of arc to a full circle. Each degree consists of 60 minutes of arc. The distance covered by the measure of arc is relative to the circumference (total distance around the circle) it is contained within. Knowing the radius (distance to center of circle) circumference is easily calculated by using the constant pi . The ratio (represented by pi ) of circumference is constant to diameter (radius x 2) regardless of circle size. The precise value of pi is so far unknown to man but is normally resolved to 3.1416 or 3.141 for our purposes.

    Suppose a circle with a 6 inch radius. Circumference can be calculated as:

    circumference = (radius x 2) x pi
    circumference = (6 x 2) x 3.1416
    circumference = 12 x 3.1416
    circumference = 37.6992 inches

    The distance covered by 1 degree of angle (37.6992 / 360 or, circumference divided by 360 degrees) is 0.1047 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.
    And, 1 minute of angle represents (0.1047 / 60 or, 1 degree divided by 60 minutes) 0.001745 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.

    Knowing what MOA represents allows us to calculate its value to any distance.
    Six inches (the radius of the above example) is 1/600th of 100 yards: (100 yards x 36 inches) / 6 inches = 600
    Therefore, the value of MOA at 100 yards is 1.047 inches (0.001745 x 600 = 1.047)
    At 50 yards 1/2 the 100 yard value; 70% @ 70 yards; twice @ 200 yards; 6 times @ 600 yards; and so on.
    So, the difference between thinking in inches as opposed to MOA is 0.47 inch @ 1000 yards.

    ref: riflestock.net

    Yep, just like I said… slightly larger than 1 inch at 100 yards. I just didn’t want to go into that whole rig-a-ma-roll to explain it. :mrgreen:

    BTW, that is an awesome explanation! Thanks

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    Quote by: hawkeye

    The angle of an arc is expressed in number of degrees. There are 360 degrees of arc to a full circle. Each degree consists of 60 minutes of arc. The distance covered by the measure of arc is relative to the circumference (total distance around the circle) it is contained within. Knowing the radius (distance to center of circle) circumference is easily calculated by using the constant pi . The ratio (represented by pi ) of circumference is constant to diameter (radius x 2) regardless of circle size. The precise value of pi is so far unknown to man but is normally resolved to 3.1416 or 3.141 for our purposes.

    Suppose a circle with a 6 inch radius. Circumference can be calculated as:

    circumference = (radius x 2) x pi
    circumference = (6 x 2) x 3.1416
    circumference = 12 x 3.1416
    circumference = 37.6992 inches

    The distance covered by 1 degree of angle (37.6992 / 360 or, circumference divided by 360 degrees) is 0.1047 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.
    And, 1 minute of angle represents (0.1047 / 60 or, 1 degree divided by 60 minutes) 0.001745 inch at 6 inches from center of circle.

    Knowing what MOA represents allows us to calculate its value to any distance.
    Six inches (the radius of the above example) is 1/600th of 100 yards: (100 yards x 36 inches) / 6 inches = 600
    Therefore, the value of MOA at 100 yards is 1.047 inches (0.001745 x 600 = 1.047)
    At 50 yards 1/2 the 100 yard value; 70% @ 70 yards; twice @ 200 yards; 6 times @ 600 yards; and so on.
    So, the difference between thinking in inches as opposed to MOA is 0.47 inch @ 1000 yards.

    ref: riflestock.net

    hey thanks, now i have a headache, im going to bed

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