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  • Avatarkenhump
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    Quote by: ahawk100

    Hey I didn’t write a essay. I just Googled it. Thought this was a forum for information. Don’t shoot the messenger.

    http://concealcarryhq.net/concealed-carry-by-state/iowa-concealed-carry/

    Ahawk. Not busting your chops. Sometimes this missinformation takes on a life of it’s own. I have received wrong or outdated information in a class given by a LEO. IOWA CODE 724 is a good place to start. FWIW Iowa’s AG is known for putting out bad information about weapons laws.

    WapelloMarkWapelloMark
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    I’ve noticed in some of the responses that procarryeverywhere folks usually state they follow their employers no-carry policy while on the clock … interesting how it turns and principles are tested when it comes to the paycheck ➡

    Avatarpheasant29
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    Quote by: WapelloMark

    I’ve noticed in some of the responses that procarryeverywhere folks usually state they follow their employers no-carry policy while on the clock … interesting how it turns and principles are tested when it comes to the paycheck ➡

    Or maybe they are smart enough to conceal it on the internet as well. Knowing that some of their work mates might see the post as well.Kinda like walking into Purefishing concealed.Luckily my job is full 2A supportive. Sorry to the Original poster on the discussion. Again on my yes and no answer. NO I will not shop there.

    Avatarrericsson
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    B) I think it is the stores right to post what they believe. I am not to worried about somebody brandishing a weapon inside a fishing store in Spiriit Iowa. Probably better chance of getting struck by lightning. Does not offend me. Besides, they have some nice fishing tackle. Enjoy the store and forget about the sign.
    I am more worried about ISIS and our military and our country’s fight against terrorism. robbie

    AvatarAntler Obsession
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    Yes, I will still go there to buy their $5 refurb reels, cheap fireline etc. but product at full retail, I’ll go somewhere else.

    AvatarJPenny
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    I’ve never been in this store, but yes, I’d go in there even though they posted a sign asking folks not to carry a gun in their place. I have a permit, but rarely carry. Once in awhile I will, but only when I’m going someplace that concerns me. I’m just not that concerned about needing a gun to protect myself or my family or anybody else. I realize that it is a different world out there than it used to be but in 63 years I’ve never been in a place of business where someone pulled a gun out. I worry more about a home invasion (that has happened!). At the same time, it sure doesn’t bother me to know that someone else who is responsible is packing. Carry on boys!

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    Quote by: ahawk100

    Hey I didn’t write a essay. I just Googled it. Thought this was a forum for information. Don’t shoot the messenger.

    http://concealcarryhq.net/concealed-carry-by-state/iowa-concealed-carry/

    It is a forum for information, but don’t act surprised for getting called out on providing wrong information. The site you listed is full of crap that isn’t even close to being right.

    Avatarahawk100
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    I wouldn’t go so far as saying it’s all full of crap.

    Having an Iowa Concealed Carry permit allows you the right to carry a concealed weapon on any public property within the State of Iowa. There are restrictions on the locations you can carry, set by the State of Iowa. These places include:
    1.Any public school within the State of Iowa. DPS Comment: See Iowa Code Section 724.4B, which restricts carrying on public AND nonpublic K-12 school grounds.
    2.Any public school bus. DPS Comment: See Iowa Administrative Code 281— 43.38(2), which prohibits a school bus driver from allowing firearms to be carried in a school bus.
    3.Any Casino’s, including “River Boat Casinos” DPS Comment: See Iowa Administrative Code 491—§ 5.4(6), which does prohibit carrying in licensed casinos.
    4.State Fair Grounds. DPS Comment: See Iowa Administrative Code 371—§ 2.5, which does restrict carrying at State Fair Grounds, though there are certain exceptions.
    5.Any ATV or Snowmobile. DPS Comment: See Iowa Code Sections 321I.14(2) and 321G.13(2), which does establish restrictions on carrying on a snowmobile and ATV, though there is an exception for nonambulatory persons, and also an exception for unloaded cased firearms.

    Furthermore, the federal government restricts where you can conceal carry a firearm. These locations include:
    1.FDIC insured Banks. DPS Comment: We are not aware of any such restriction. I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.
    2.Federal or State court houses. DPS Comment: There are provisions of federal law that restrict carrying at federal courthouses and in some cases other federal property, such as federal offices, Corps of Engineers property (Saylorville, Coralville, Red Rock, plus certain Locks and Dams), etc… We are not aware of a provision of federal law that establishes restrictions on carrying in state court houses. I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.
    3.Any Public School. DPS Comment: This may be a misunderstanding of the federal gun free school zones act (GFSZA). I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.

    4. Any place of Worship, including Churches. DPS Comment: We are not aware of any such restriction. I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.
    5.Any Post Office or mail distribution location. DPS Comment: We are aware that there are some restrictions regarding postal facilities, but we believe there have been changes recently, and there may be different provisions depending on whether a person is in a building or instead simply in a parking lot of a post office. I recommend that you contact the US Postal Service to get information regarding postal facilities.

    AvatarLoneWolf130
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    Quote by: ahawk100

    I wouldn’t go so far as saying it’s all full of crap.

    Having an Iowa Concealed Carry permit allows you the right to carry a concealed weapon on any public property within the State of Iowa. There are restrictions on the locations you can carry, set by the State of Iowa. These places include:
    1.Any public school within the State of Iowa. DPS Comment: See Iowa Code Section 724.4B, which restricts carrying on public AND nonpublic K-12 school grounds.
    2.Any public school bus. DPS Comment: See Iowa Administrative Code 281� 43.38(2), which prohibits a school bus driver from allowing firearms to be carried in a school bus.
    3.Any Casino�s, including �River Boat Casinos� DPS Comment: See Iowa Administrative Code 491�§ 5.4(6), which does prohibit carrying in licensed casinos.
    4.State Fair Grounds. DPS Comment: See Iowa Administrative Code 371�§ 2.5, which does restrict carrying at State Fair Grounds, though there are certain exceptions.
    5.Any ATV or Snowmobile. DPS Comment: See Iowa Code Sections 321I.14(2) and 321G.13(2), which does establish restrictions on carrying on a snowmobile and ATV, though there is an exception for nonambulatory persons, and also an exception for unloaded cased firearms.

    Furthermore, the federal government restricts where you can conceal carry a firearm. These locations include:
    1.FDIC insured Banks. DPS Comment: We are not aware of any such restriction. I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.
    2.Federal or State court houses. DPS Comment: There are provisions of federal law that restrict carrying at federal courthouses and in some cases other federal property, such as federal offices, Corps of Engineers property (Saylorville, Coralville, Red Rock, plus certain Locks and Dams), etc� We are not aware of a provision of federal law that establishes restrictions on carrying in state court houses. I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.
    3.Any Public School. DPS Comment: This may be a misunderstanding of the federal gun free school zones act (GFSZA). I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.

    4. Any place of Worship, including Churches. DPS Comment: We are not aware of any such restriction. I recommend asking the person or entity who is providing you this information to share a reference to a provision of law that establishes such a restriction.
    5.Any Post Office or mail distribution location. DPS Comment: We are aware that there are some restrictions regarding postal facilities, but we believe there have been changes recently, and there may be different provisions depending on whether a person is in a building or instead simply in a parking lot of a post office. I recommend that you contact the US Postal Service to get information regarding postal facilities.

    That page is VERY full of crap!

    Statements from your referenced page:

    1. The state of Iowa does issue concealed carry licenses , Iowa does NOT issue “concealed carry licenses” to anyone. Iowa only issues Professional and Nonprofessional Permits to Carry Weapons

    2. Iowa also issues concealed carry permits to non-residents of the state, the ONLY non-resident that is eligible to obtain an Iowa PROFESSIONAL Permit to Carry Weapons is someone who has a legitimate, employment related need. ie: a Security Guard that lives in Omaha, but works in Council Bluffs and is required by his employer to be armed. Professional Permits are only valid while going to work, during work, and directly home from work.

    3. 4.You must also submit fingerprint cards, which can be completed at the sheriff’s office where you pick up your application, You do NOT have to have fingerprints submitted for any reason to obtain either type of Permit to Carry Weapons.

    4. Both residents and non-residents of Iowa are eligible for an Iowa Concealed Carry license, Once again, Iowa does not even have a “Iowa Concealed Carry license”, it has a Professional and Nonprofessional Permit to Carry Weapons, and also once again, a non-resident can only obtain a Professional permit if their employment takes place in Iowa and requires them to be armed. No non-resident nonprofessional permits are issued.

    5. Having an Iowa Concealed Carry permit allows you the right to carry a concealed weapon , They still have no clue what kind of permit Iowa issues, and an Iowa Permit to Carry Weapons allows you the PRIVILEGE to carry a weapon open OR concealed.

    6. Furthermore, the federal government restricts where you can conceal carry a firearm. These locations include:[/I]
    1.FDIC insured Banks. WRONG
    2.Federal or State court houses
    3.Any Public School. WRONG
    4.Any place of Worship, including Churches. WRONG
    5.Any Post Office or mail distribution location.

    7. It is legal to transport your firearm in your vehicle as long as it is secured and not loaded. If you have a valid Permit to Carry Weapons you can legally transport a LOADED weapon in your vehicle and there is absolutely no regulation that says it has to be “secured”

    8. If you are traveling to a location that is not prohibited, you are free to carry a weapon regardless of signs posted[/I] So if I’m walking from the park to HyVee (two places that I am legally allowed to carry), and there happens to be a school in between us, I can just waltz right across that school property while carrying? Let me know how that works out for you.

    Still think you have a great site there?

    Avatarahawk100
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    Wow, I list the website where I pulled the info. People ask for specifics. I forward over the TWO topic’s I had posted to the Bureau Chief of the Department of Public Safety. He kindly replied with his answers. On the state laws he provided the facts. On the Federal he clearly stated he didn’t know.

    I never posted anything about YOUR items 1 thru 5.

    Never said it was MY website.

    Sorry I made any effort and wasted my time.

    AvatarShooter.250
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    And I thought this was a simple poll to see if people would continue to support a business that had a NO FIREARMS sign. Not a debate on where or when you could carry.
    I’m not sure why they are trying to hijack this thread.

    IaCraigIaCraig
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    I might not 100% boycott them, but I will avoid them when other choices exist.

    Avataraaronm
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    It is a personal choice and I support anyone’s decision either way. With that said I will probably still frequent the store. If I were to stop doing business with all the companies whose policies I don’t agree with I wouldn’t have very many places to shop.

    AvatarBung
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    doesn’t matter to me.

    That said, if I’m carrying that day, I’m going to ignore their sign.

    Avatarkenhump
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    One last thought on this. The businesses putting up the ‘no weapons’ signs to ‘protect workers and customers’ are like the people putting up “Not responsible for aaccidents” signs. It does not relieve them of the liability if someone is injured on their property. So basically they are rose bush food.

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